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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:37 pm 
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Ok theres fred ! sorry you are the only person I new that has done it so I tossed you in to this LOL . I want to see how he lookscan't wait !

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 Post Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:41 pm 
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I have contacted Health Gene to see if we can get a better deal on the price from them. They are a company in Canada that does genetic testing and that JP has worked with thru Dr. Sheila Schmutz. If they dont want to give us a break on the price, then I will go with the original plan of using UC Davis. Health Gene does a bit more testing that UC Davis doesnt do, but if more testing is needed, then we will have to use them anyway, so I decided to go with them first. So, we will see.

When I get a firm price, I will let everyone know how much it will cost for sure, then I will order the swabs. I have to have a firm commitment on who wants to have this done, as I will be putting out my money up front.

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 Post Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:48 pm 
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I know Tisha and Darren Rackley post on NLDA, I beleive Tisha has red brother doen't she Fred?

Tisha if you read this could you post some pics of your families red tri?


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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:54 pm 
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Betty I am willing to donate to the cause and don't nessessarly need my dogs tested, would like to find out more about this and will help in whatever way I can with my dogs and/or whoevers dogs would make the best sense to get tested.
let me know if there is anything I can do


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I am with Joe I will kick in some money for the cause !

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
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Thanks guys! I will keep that in mind. Still waiting to hear from UC Davis as to what tests they will want to run and the cost.
Health Gene wouldnt give me any discount, so will be going with UC Davis.

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:26 am 
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Yes we have the red-tri. My son bought him from Fred. He is growing up to be a very beautiful dog. Has a fantastic nose. His colors have improved. What I mean is he looks more like a tri than he did when he was 10 weeks. He is almost 6 months old and weighs 35 pounds. We almost lost him over the weekend due to his eating everthing in sight. He ate something poisonous and it was a very close call. Luckly we have a great vet that stayed by his side for 4 days. He is back home now and doing great. Tisha is working on some pics to post. Remo (Puma) is definatly a red-tri. We promised Fred we would have him fixed and did so in October so if the NLDA decides to recognize the color Fred will have to work his majic again cause Remo is all show.


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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:14 pm 
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Betty there is a web site for Pecan Peak Ranch. They breed Lacy's. There is a picture of a black Lacy under the color tab.


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I am pretty sure that is just a wet blue with the picture taken late in the day, or evening...

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I.M.H.O. Their are no such thing as a BLACK LACY. As with a lot of other colors they have some other breeds mixed in. The other breed may not show up EVERY time but it is still there. The ONLY true colors for the Lacy breed are Blue, Red and Tri. (Tri. being Blue with red trim.)

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:44 pm 
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Those are Sean Cockrials dogs he also list cream as a color but dosen't list any as black.

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
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More cream colored dogs seem to be showing up.... And, I get a lot of calls from folks looking for reds...
Blue may not rule for long!

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I NEVER heard of a CREAM colored Lacy untill a few yrs ago. :-? Now i have seen YELLOW Lacys most of my life. I guess some people think they need to reinvent the wheel. ~X(

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 Post Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:09 am 
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It's not the re-invention of the wheel. It is simple genetics. When you have dilute blues, reds and tris and you breed those 3 colors, mixing them up- reds to blues, blues to tris, reds to tris, the genes do what they want and you get different shades of blues, reds and tris. The testing of the color genes will explain all of that.

I know that Mrs. Gibbs said that she knew the dogs to be red and blue. They were known as red dogs or blue dogs. Somewhere along the line, the tris came to be. Then, the creams. Those are all accepted colors, as they should be. Why should we be leaving out other colors, which are all the lining up of the dilute genes, or the simple cross of a red and a tri. I simply dont see it as reinventing the wheel, just the process of genetic evolution.

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
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I reckon some folks see colors different than others... But, I can't go for green!

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