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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:15 pm 
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Maybe these will post so that you all can see them better.

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What a cute little sweet love pup! ;;)


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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:18 pm 
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I didn't repost all of them, so if there are any that you would like to see a little closer just let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:21 pm 
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he certainly looks happy to me!!!! healthy too!!! Ya'll have done a great job with him already...

He's not a fluke...once we get some dogs tested we should be able to explain his color variation!!!

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:11 pm 
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Rackleys- he is a beautiful dog! His head is pretty and his ears are very nice. I would very much like to have him tested, altho JP can probably tell me what he is, just by having his parents colors done.

This color genetics stuff is amazing. I would guess that most all of the major breeds that have been around for a while, have had it done.

For those who are interested, here is the website that Dr. Schmutz has that explains the color genes. http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dogcolors.html There are a ton of links that you can go to and find more info.

For those who are so worried that I am going to jump up and change the standards, you can rest easy, for a while any way. I know that changing the standards is something that should not be taken lightly. I know that it is something that the whole NLDA has to be a part of, not just one or two people. That is what the NLDA started out to be and what it will continue to be.

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:42 pm 
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That is a nice looking hound...........

I think for my 2 cents I will agree with Fred on this one. Lets see what science has to say before we get into changing standards and all the arguments that come with such things.

Nice pics of the hound though...

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:14 pm 
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You should all be advised that I have already copyrighted both the silver lacy and the snow lacy names. B-)

If labs are any measure, I figure I can get at least $1500 per silver lacy!

Already getting prepared to have the conversation with jimmy..... :D

Jimmy, "that's no lacy!"
Me, "Yep! That's a snow lacy!"

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:33 pm 
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you forgot the silver-snow lacy thats bound to happen.........that I will copyright........thanks for softening up Jimmy in advance

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
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I will take care of Frosty Mocha... And, because we all know what Red and Blue make Perfect Purple is mine too! :YMBRINGITON:

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
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didnt even think about frosty-mocha........

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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:34 pm 
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=; My turn My turn, so I would love to see where the colors are coming from, with that being said I find it hard to believe after over 100 years of breeding lacy's that now creams and red tri's are just popping up. Now if I had a breeding pair I too would want to change the standard so I could see my lacy dog as a standard quality. Unfortunately I believe IMO that the color variation we are seeing are due to bad breeding that has been done over the course of when the lacys first originated. There is nothing we can do about that but try and breed the purest of the pure and changing standard to accommodate folks for their dogs having a different coat is not acceptable. IMO!. Personally if I had a cream or a red tri I would not try to pass it as standard because it is not. Like rackley said if the dog does what the owner wants then it is a good dog, that doesn’t mean we need to change standard for one dog or even a dozen dogs. Also why we’re on the subject on genetics, if a dog as a defect that WE are AWARE of such as hip dysplasia, cleft pallet, color, etc etc etc. The dog SHOULD NOT BE BREED! If breed now there will be more strains of that genetic throughout the breed and will have more lacy's with those same issues and defects. I think the Breeder Code of Ethics need to be viewed a little more seriously.


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 Post subject: color genetics
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:20 pm 
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Colby very well said and could not agree more. Let's find out what is causing the color issues and not do those breedings ! I just neutered a male I have that hair was a little longer than what I think it should have been! So I took him out of my program. If you are going to be a breeder you have to realize that not all your dogs are going to be breeders. Especially if you bought the dog as a puppy ! You have to be willing cull your breeding stock to do the right thing . Its not always easy but you have to do it. I think a lot of people that want to be breeders but have only room for a few dogs that they bought as pups that grow up and do not need to be bred. The problemr is they are now attached to the animal and do not have what it takes to pull that animal out of there program. They also do not have room to add more dogs so they breed what they have . That is why not everyone should be breeders and should just be owners . Breeders have to be willing to make those hard decisions . JMO


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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
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THANK YOU COLBY!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: color genetics
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I do not want to be like the other orginization that feels dogs like this are ok to breed rather than taking them out of there programs. So this would require a third tri color . there would be the standaed tri color , Red & Cream tri color , not sure what I would call this one Eddie Munster Tri , I guess .
I have no problem taking any of my dogs out of my program if they do not meet the current standards then they are out. Thats just me !

Red with alot of blue influence ?? Is that a color?? This is what is listed on there breeders Page. Now why would a very experinced breeder even breed this dog ?

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good looking dog, nice head and front by the pic

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