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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:36 pm 
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Has anyone done one of the canine DNA tests to see what the results say about Lacy heredity? I'm curious whether that sort of test could confirm what the old newspaper articles and word of mouth have told us about the original makeup of the breed.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:39 pm 
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There are several test out there you can do. There was one we were going to do over the summer, but they came back after we all got excited about and said they would only give us the results if there was a problem.so we never really persude it. I am interested in the actual make up.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:17 pm 
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We participated in one study and had all of our Lacys swabbed.
As far as that one went it was for a massive research project on canines and wouldn't
tell us anything particular unless they saw a huge genetic flaw. We never got a negative report and that was last year.

There are several places now that you can order DNA kits and send them in for analysis.
They say that they can tell you the first three breeds in your dog on up to 5 if applicable.
We have not done those yet but our local paper ran an article on it last year and it's about 45 dollars a dog to have the tests run (I think thats what the article said.) Jeffers Pets has the kits.

We may want to look further into that and doing it to see if we can obtain DNA evidence to support the historical evidence. :)

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:27 pm 
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The biggest problem with the commercial DNA kits is you can only test for what they have on record. So, since the English Shepherd is also rare, I doubt they'll have a DNA profile for them. Greyhound, yes. Wolf, questionable, it just depends on the company and what strain of wolf they have.

Because of that, I've heard about some super crazy results from those tests. But some kennel clubs, like the UKC who does recognize the English Shepherd, do DNA breed profiles on almost every breed. I don't know if they use it to determine the makeup of other breeds, but that might be something to pursue.

I'm sure lots has been mixed in to Lacys over the years. Some dogs probably aren't even related to the foundation stock since there was never a closed breeding program. But it sure would be neat if you could trace it back to the beginning.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:42 pm 
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Help me pick the right lab, and I'll be happy to get Cannon's gene's read. Should be really interesting! They will probably say it wasn't wolf or coyote, but that they are part kangaroo.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
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Here are a couple of places you can order your swabs from and then they analyze them
http://www.dog-dna.com/

http://www.canineheritage.com/

http://www.vetdnacenter.com/canine.html

http://www.happydogdna.com/Order.html?g ... sgodwSDm0w

http://www.petelectronicsystems.com/pub ... swodi3rw1g

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
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Since none of the commercial testers list English Shepherd on their breed lists, I sent an email to UKC to see if they thought their test might be helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
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Turns out that UKC uses http://www.canineheritage.com.

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 Post subject: Re: DNA Testing
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Hey if/when you get your pup "read" be sure to let us know what you find out!
That should be interesting to say the least. I need to talk one of these places into
a lower rate for bulk testing ! :))

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