Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ

Board index » Dr. Dog » Breeding & Genetics




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Good laymans article
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:28 am
Posts: 1460
Location: USA
There is nothing new stated in this article but I really like the way that the author explains the three dimensions of genetic standardization. I also like how he explains that line-breeding if used correctly can facilitate the elimination of genetic flaws and how individual bottle necked lines within a breed actually increase the genetic diversity of the breed as a whole. Like I said this is nothing new, its just stated simply.

http://thehoundsmen.blogspot.com/2008/1 ... ation.html

_________________
Pigs evolved with ears so that my dogs would have a handle.

Remember the dog wags the pedigree and the reverse is not true.

16, intelligent and articulate, I'm a fan!


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good laymans article
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:14 pm 
Offline
NLDA Lifetime Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:20 pm
Posts: 307
read the article, very interesting.

Jerryg


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good laymans article
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:19 pm 
Offline
NLDA Lifetime Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:27 am
Posts: 2456
Location: SoCal
Since this article is a little more relevant as a follow up, I'll post it in this thread. I tried to find the Guy Ormiston article, which doesn't appear to be up anywhere, but I find that he wrote a short book called "The New Guide to Breeding Old Fashioned Working Dogs."

Terrierman gave it a strong recommendation, http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/20 ... ioned.html, and I really respect his writing. Read the whole article, but here are some of his highlighted quotes from the book:

"To become wealthy you would have to sell dogs in volume and that is contradictory to one of the secrets of breeding outstanding working dogs. SECRET: Constant sorting of brood stock is necessary to prevent regression to average performers. You cannot mass-produce sound brood stock."

"You must be a USER of your own brood stock…You could not cull out the lesser dogs unless you used them under fire, identifying their weakness."

"Line breeding and inbreeding will have to be used to maintain any excellence you wish to keep in your strain (but) Never, never, make a cross based solely on compatible pedigrees." [The author goes on to recount his method of developing your own separate strains for the eventually needed outcross.]

"Breed only based on the abilities of the present couple before you. Working ability is an absolute necessity but secondary to soundness and courage. Care must be taken to never double up on a weakness, but always double up on strength."

"If the progeny prove inferior, the animal is removed from the breeding program."

"NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING QUALITY IN YOUR BROOD BITCHES. JUDGE A SIRE ONLY BY HIS GET."

"If you have something good in the way of a working dog strain, constant wariness is required to avoid losing it."

_________________
"You must be a very small minority no matter who you hang around with. Maybe you should start a magazine, Vegetarian Hog Dogging Monthly, find some like-minded individuals."
- Inspiration for my next project from TBH

True Blue Lacys: http://www.truebluelacys.com
More Lacy Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/julieanna/sets/72157605027566732/


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good laymans article
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:28 am
Posts: 1460
Location: USA
You left out two excerpts that I feel are just as relevant if not more so.

# "To produce a credible strain of working dogs… you must breed dogs that will almost train themselves. They must be dogs that can rise above everything from limited exposure to work/training, to neglect, to abuse, and still make some fashion of a functional working dog. I would say only one potential user out of a hundred is a "real" dog trainer… a person who, first, will take the time to properly train a young dog and, secondly, knows how to go about it… a rare find indeed… Out of a litter of ten pups to a random sampling of users, only about two of those pups would have a fair chance of receiving a proper chance to perform their heritage."

# "Many a poor soul embarks on a breeding program, with no chance for success simply because this person cannot recognize a top working dog and, therefore, is unable to make intelligent breeding selections. One must study dogs, live with them in the working environment, succeed or fail based on their competence before one can recognize a top performer. Usually these sessions of learning must be lonely vigils."

Steve

_________________
Pigs evolved with ears so that my dogs would have a handle.

Remember the dog wags the pedigree and the reverse is not true.

16, intelligent and articulate, I'm a fan!


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

Board index » Dr. Dog » Breeding & Genetics


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron