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Author:  Ron20 [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:45 pm ]
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Dont have pictures yet but I will get some upload tomorrow...

anyways trav has these spots since 4 months old. On his belly, under side of his paw, left of butt (the smallest one), right below the butt hole, and his hip. 99% of them are a perfect circle, about dime size ( will double check)

I took him to the vet here while back and had him tested for ring worm good news he doesn't have it (I didnt know that they will glow green under a uv light?) So he was given some pills and a bottle of shampoo, well I havent bathed him in a while but here last week I have been satying on top of it. He hates it but since its hot outside he dont care and good thing is he gets to air dry he is one mad lacy he is cute when he is mad at me:) ( will add pics in my other thread)

well they are getting a little better but not enough to tell a difference

sorry about not posting sooner but I was pretty upset since I typed it on my phone and hit post and it came up a blank screen (pre wifi) now it should work I didnt feel like typing it over again on the pc since it had issues with the wired Internet (little plastic tab broke)

thak ya

Author:  Ron20 [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:48 pm ]
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Not important but man its nice to have wifi internet I got it with my b day money what a great investment

Author:  Ron20 [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:24 pm ]
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http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r57 ... a68069.jpg
hip

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r57 ... 43f4ee.jpg
belly

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r57 ... 9201c0.jpg
his paw is the worst one since he licks it very often

Author:  Betty L. [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:30 am ]
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I cant tell you what is causing the spots, but I can tell you some things that might help. I havent any idea what is available to you, but you might have to order on line, or go to a bigger city to get these. The HEB in San Angelo carries a good amount of natural and herbal stuff- maybe you are close to one of those. Anyway, these are things that you would get at a health food store.

Tea Tree oil would be a good start. Most any health food place will carry it. It is an essential oil that kills any kind of pest, fungus, etc. Just put a dab of the oil on the spots and rub it around. Do it as many times a day as you can. Try to keep him from licking it off. He doesnt need to ingest a lot of the oil. It might take a while for the oil to work,, but once you see hair growing in, keep applying for a while after.

Coconut oil should also work. You will want to get a good brand, which can cost up to $16, but the cheap brands just wont do as good of a job. LouAnn brand is pretty available, but it's not so good, but if that is all you can find, get it. Apply it just as I told you on the Tea Tree oil. Most dogs really like coconut oil, so you might have a problem with Traveler licking it off. You can only get coconut oil in quart jars, but your grandmother can use it in cooking if she wants. At warm temps, it will melt and be liquid, but it can be put in the refrigerator to keep it solid.

Try one of these products and let me know if they dont work. Spots like that can be coming from something other than bugs and you might need to go another direction, but I suspect that this will help.

Author:  AmberLowMiddleton [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:49 am ]
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Has he had them since you got him? How long has it been? They could be "scars" from where he did have ringworm at one time, but those wouldn't last too long before the hair started to come back.

Author:  Ron20 [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:26 am ]
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Well I caught him biting his paw and it has the same spot developed makes me wonder did he cause this or something else maybe flee med confromtis? I gave him that the day after I bought him since the breeder clamied he didnt have flees but he did. they dont seem like flee bites he was an outside dog mostly and was eating poor kibble (pedigree adult)

I will have to look into the natural products for him right now he gets bathed with vet shampoo. 4 times a week and I started it last week.

He hasnt had them since I got him june 12, maybe 2 weeks after I guess I think that's when I noticed it on his belly. When we were able to get to the vet I had them check him over they said it was a skin infection they gave me antibiotics and shampoo they said it wasnt ring worm so that is great.
And other news its not pet contagious

I wish I would have made a note of when it happened. But ever time I would post (before wi-fi) it wouldnt post just a blank screen so I said some words and gave up cant use my laptop with the puppy loose and been to tired to even get on the computer

thank yall for the advice I hope he will regrow some hair on them spots. Maybe spray rogaine on them I am kidding I dont think that stuff is ment for dogs

Author:  Betty L. [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:55 pm ]
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If it is a fungus- like athlete's foot- an antibiotic will not do a bit of good. Fungi are really hard to get rid of. It may be something that is so far under the radar that you may never find it. But, hopefully, you can get rid of it. It could be caused by an allergy, the Comfortis may be aggravating it, as will the anti-biotic because both of them suppress the immune system. I'm not faulting anyone, you or the vet, but try the Tea Tree oil, or the coconut oil and see if either- or- will help.

Antibiotics are sometimes necessary, but they only help if the problem is of bacteria causes. Antibiotics do nothing for live things like mites, etc. Nor do they do anything if it is allergy or virus. The body uses bacteria in the gut for the immune system- which is how they fight off diseases and the like. The immune system IS the bacteria in the gut. When antibiotics are given, they kill off the bad and the good bacteria. When you give a chemical that kills off the fleas, it also destroys the immune system, so you have more than one thing working against healing.

Then, as you say, Traveler had not the best beginnings, so there's not much telling what his body is dealing with that is still showing up from how he lived and was treated at the breeder. So, continue with the good dog food, give flea killers only when nothing else works and work on getting him healthier as you go and hopefully, the spots will go away. Larry had spots that I never knew what they were, other than they got bigger when the grass was green. I did homeopathy, raw food and absolutely as few chemicals as I could and he eventually got rid of the spots. So, I know that you can get rid of them. It may take a while.

Author:  Ron20 [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:36 pm ]
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Thank you betty I am starting to feel better about those spots. That day I got him he had no spots that next day he was taken to the vet for shots rabies and distemper. Then confromtis when we got home for flee control since shampoo didnt help. Thats when I noticed the spots about maybe 3 days after that (cant remember)

The antibiotics didnt help and the vet shampoo is helping some.

His food diet includes purina one and blue wildness I dont know what the ratio is I think close to 50%


I have some anti fungus spray I am wondering if that will help

I had him when he was 3 months and he is 6 months now. I am wondering out loud why is the spots only in a perfect circle I will upload a close up pic of the belly spot

Author:  Ron20 [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:37 pm ]
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http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r57 ... f74cff.jpg

here is the belly pic

Author:  Ron20 [ Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:05 am ]
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So after looking at puppy pics he must have gotten the spots after 6-18 because in another pic dated 7-9 he has it on his hip (thank ya betty your post in my picture thread made me look through his photos and figure out a time frame). And he got dog bit on 6-15 I am not sure if that caused it just trying to figure out what caused the spots. was it the vet, the dog bite, or bad dog food.

Author:  Ron20 [ Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:05 pm ]
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I hope this works

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Well guess what guys and girls more spots are developing

I just dont get it any more. He does chew up his bedding its a crate bed. Bad thing is I cant break him of that because he is only in there when we leave and at night. (I have tried everything toys and old curtains)

Hey betty I am heading out of town for some things and going to look for some tea tree oil. Bad thing is the heb which is a small one might not have it

how long does it have to stay on there for, I can go on walks just so he dont lick it off

also could blue wildness be causing this. I am thinking out loud

Author:  Ron20 [ Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:43 pm ]
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Well they didnt have it

Author:  Betty L. [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:55 pm ]
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Send me your address and I will send you some tea tree oil.

Author:  Ron20 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:44 pm ]
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Thank you betty for helping me out. I will send you my address here directly.

Author:  Ron20 [ Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:59 pm ]
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Betty L. wrote:
Send me your address and I will send you some tea tree oil.

I sent you an email through the fourm *not a pm* I dont know if you got it or not.

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